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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:41 pm 
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It can be arranged, I have been thinking about doing HNM beastman king too.

BTW, T4 trophies are pretty much confirmed too. From BG:
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Japanese Interview in ヴァナ・ディール通信 vol.6 (book)
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Q:Why ZNM tier4(for tier5)trigger's drop rate is low?
A:cause Mythic should be hard to get. no plan to fix drop rate.


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I could probably get like 5 or so ppl (that actually listen) for ToAU beastmen kings. Group organizing, I'm quite sure isn't difficult since there is high interest... just no experience is the shaky part.


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I found some info on BG. Troll king is supposed to be the weakest and best blood tanked by PLD (sub RDM). TBH I always though MNK HNM = impossible to gauge.

Still not easy to set date for the fight since we are all from different time zones.


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As for the question in question... the interviewer asks why triggers for mobs up to 3rd-level always drop, but then 4th level drop so rarely. They answer that they wanted to set these bosses apart from the rest by making it tougher. Also, Mythic Weapons involve their trigger items, and low drop rates set a hurdle for people to get over if they want to obtain them.

The interviewer continues to ask if they would ever consider adjusting the drop rate in the future. The developers answer that the possibility is there, but it wouldn't happen anytime soon.


Posted by Elmer on BG, safe to say T4 trophies are part of mythic requirements.

I wonder how much ppl will pay for these trophies :P


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Eskaia wrote:
Anyway, I have no problem with obtaining these 3 Trophies for Mythic relic & the time needed (Hello 100k Ichor / 150k Tokens). It works great for the "do all ToAU quests/events" theme, and that's why I was 1st excited about Mythics.


Personally, I love this idea. It's similar to Attestation. When ZNM 1st came out & we already had info on Mythic quests I was a bit dissapointed because Mythic was supposed to "Tour of ToAU" do it all! Turns out Mythic (at that point) wasn't finished, such liers lol.

The progress on these aren't "set in stone" like Ampoules are. So we've seen lots of Pandy pops, lots of people holding full pops, and tons of other drops. In comparison, I doubt anyone has 300k Ampoules. It's a system that is work at your own pace, and hardly "blocking" the Mythic Quests, imo. If you can raise 150k Tokens, 100k Ampoules, 30k Alexandrites, kill 3 ToAU beastkings but then can't collect 3 Rare/EX Trophies from some easy versions of ToAU HNM, then you suck XD

Less harsh reality: While you are collecting 30k Alexandrites, you should have 3/3 Trophies way before you collect 30k Alex.


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Actually ZNM can potentially become the most difficult part of mythic upgrade. Ppl focus too much on T4 trophies and forget the fact that the 3rd quest actually require 3 trophies and something called "Mark of ZahaK". I highly doubt SE will leave PW out of this. The worst possible scenario -PW drops Mark of Zahak and it's NOT 100%.


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Mark of Zahak? That's BLU flag quest


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Scroll up to the very first post, it's actually called "Relief of Zahak"


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I assume obtaining "Relief of Zahak" is done by clearing Balrahn BC fight.
Reason is DAT miners have said you receive your fully unlocked mythic weapon after Nyzul BC fight.
This is speculation, of course.


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Revealed somewhere on the General FFXI forum, the site of eLeMeN was brought up. For those of you who don't know, this is a highly-respected JP FFXI database and discussion board for cutting-edge stuff. Basically its the JP version of our bg-wiki. They have recently posted the requirements for the third installment of mythic weapons meaning someone out there already finished the 30k Alexandrite requirement. The validity of these claims is still unconfirmed, but for eLeMeN to post it gives it enough credibility to be investigated and speculated upon.

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First requirements for the quest for Mythic Weaponry:

-Kill 3 Beastmen Kings
-Kill 4 Boss Chariots
-Kill Odin

Second Quest requirements for Mythic Weaponry:

-Obtain Balrahn's Eyepatch (100,000 Theorin Ichor Cost)
-Obtain Wyrmseeker Areuhat (150,000 Nyzul Isle Tokens)
-Record all 50 Assaults in the log (Redo all assaults)
-Acquire 30,000 Alexandrite (Freakin impossible)

Third Quest requirements for Mythic Weaponry:

-Obtain Tininn's Fang
-Obtain Sarameya's Hide
-Obtain Tyger's Tail
-Obtain a Relief of Zahak (Possible battle involved)

Fourth Quest requirements for Mythic Weaponry:

-Unknown. Dat files suggest possibly a Maat-style battle occuring with an impossibly-powerful enemy. Balrahn himself maybe?


Still unconfirmed but Relief of Zahak appears to be part of 3rd quest requirements.


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Ah ok that makes sense


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Apparently there is a BLU that finished the second quest and has an locked version of the final weapon (similar to stage 4 relics, no additional stats but this one actually looks like final weapon), they did the third quest by turning in the 3 trophy items to enter the BC got him down to 1% then he started taking 0 dmg and lost, and the worst part you lose trophies and have to reobtain them...

I was thinking how bad it would be if that happened, but I never thought SE would be that cruel :shock:

http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/ffxi-a ... ion-8.html

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Anyone still doubt the power of mythic weapons? lol

On the bright side ppl who actually complete mythic upgrade do not only prove they have the resources and commitment but also prove they have the skill in the job.

ZNM trophies are going to be a good source of income X)


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Ahlah wrote:
On the bright side ppl who actually complete mythic upgrade do not only prove they have the resources and commitment but also prove they have the skill in the job.
I wouldn't say by completing a Mythic Weapon would make anyone skilled in their job since most of can be done on other jobs :P

But anyone that completes one my hats off to them, it's probably the greatest accoplishment one can achieve in the game.

But I have to love how SE did a complete 180 on what Mythic Weapons we're going to be, when they first announced them they said they weren't going to be as hard to obtain as current relics and that they weren't going to be as powerful but this would allow more people to be able to have a chance to get them, they also said they we're going back to current relics and buff them when they released Mythic Weapons.

Now they are much, much harder (and more expensive) than any current relic, and aftermath effects seem almost game breaking :lol:

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Definitely need some skill, ppl will need another set of ZNM trophies if they screw up the final solo BCNM which is really mean X) I know I will be mad at myself.

I honestly don't know how ppl will react to the latest findings. It's going to be really difficult to predict Alexandrite market now. From what I have observed, cross server buyers are buying all the stones in R field. May be I will put small numbers of alex in bazaar and try to push the price up.


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